The Euro zone is still trying to dig itself out of its financial mess and prevent more countries, like Spain and Italy, from sinking into a black hole. At a panel discussion called, The Finance Crisis: Lessons Learned from Canada and the Way Forward, at the Canadian Embassy in Washington, D.C., Robert Rubin, former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, sat down with Chrystia Freeland and told her how he thinks the EU crisis could end and what impact it could have on the U.S.
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